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Total Elevator Pitch

1. All members support the 4 Freedoms. The 4th of those freedoms tells us to remove all political components of a religion, in order for it to be exempt from govt. monitoring
2. The 8 Characteristics tell us what those political components are, therefore, which parts of Islam must be removed to stop the construction of a parallel society which subverts Secular Democracy
3. The 10 reasons show us that the threat is real and immediate, so we mustn't avoid the difficult actions
4. The 12 Point Plan gives actual actions which should be taken

The 4 Freedoms

Our political system should give as much freedom as possible, but not so much as to tolerate its own destruction. Hence, all members support the 4 Freedoms below, and work to protect those that become victims by their loss.
1. Freedom of Speech
Any speech allowed - except that advocating the end of free speech.
2. Freedom of Election
Any party allowed - except one advocating the end of democracy.
3. Freedom from Discrimination
All citizens are equally protected by secular law.
4. Freedom from Religion
Religion has no exemption in  public or political matters

8 Characteristics of a Political Ideology

An ideology is identified as political, if it has the its own:
1. System of Government with a hierarchical delegation of control
2. System of Law
which at least covers criminal and civil acts and statements
3. Command & Control Centres
(CCC) from which the surrounding people & institutions are controlled
4. Military Theory giving strategy, tactics, motivation and uniform
5. Civil Enforcement Group
(CEG) a Police Force or gang - can quickly mobilise for pressure
6. Communication System
directs society & CEG to promote projects and eliminate threats. Preferably not easily accessible.
7. Finance and Tax System
controls the economy and extracts revenue for the government
8. Indoctrination System
(optional) trains children in the ideology, and makes new converts

10 Reasons why Islam will win

Islam will replace Secular Democracy (SD) in Europe, but the US may wake up and adapt in time.
Citizen
1. Hedonistic: the principle of SD is "just pursue your own pleasure", but Muslims have duties (to Islam)
2. Cowardly: SD citizens are too weak & cowardly to face the issues, so kill the canary instead
3. Spoilt: SD Citizens don't appre-ciate the Freedom they've always had, so won't fight to keep it
4. Complexity: SD is too complex and fragile for most intellectuals to defend: Islam is much easier

Society
5. Tribalism Works: the unified group will always beat the divided group. We've lost what used to bind us but Islam has kept its identity
6. Intimidation Works: Islamism eliminates opposing speakers through violence &intimidation,then the remainder are easily silenced
7. Intolerance Works: Islam's monoculturalism easily wipes out the multiculturalism of SD
8. Infiltration Works: the SD principle of non-discrimination gives positions of power even to those who plan to destroy it. Islam denies power to outsiders.
9. Erosion Works: SD max timescale is 5 years, Islam's is 500 years: the gradual change isn't obvious enough to motivate action
10. Reproduction Works: Muslim population doubling every 10 years & currently around 10% so soon Sharia Law will be voted in place

12 Point Plan for Equal Civil Rights

To roll back the intrusion of religion into the secular state, we promote the 12 Point Plan.
Crime
1. Stop and monitor hate speech in religious assemblies & publications
2. Stop hate crimes against Jews, gays and apostates
3. Stop face covering in public
4. Stop forced marriage, bigamy, grooming and under age FGM

Discrimination & Privilege
5. Stop citizen exclusion from public buildings
and areas
6. Stop Police and Fire service exclusion from privileged places
Treason
7. Stop electoral fraud via immigration without consultation
8. Stop seditious statements by members of government institutions
Finance
9. Stop government subsidy of communities implicated in terrorism
10. Stop government funding of sectarian diets in public services
11. Stop foreign funding for construction of political centres
12. Stop foreign funding of Academic institutions

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